Thu Feb 2, 2012 16:12

I'm with you but as long as people keep buying that stuff and people like the music... What's wrong? Yes this forum isn't much in that stuff, but many somehow are. I also don't really get those producers:p

 

Thu Feb 2, 2012 16:12

Great comment btw

 

Thu Feb 2, 2012 17:27

Thank you Sten.

I'm really doubtful that those people like a music that is so crappy, just for the sake of music. Instead, I think that they like the "show" around it: they probably only like the bling bling fake corporate bitch that these videos employ; in this particular case, Alexandra Stan.

Just take a look at the video comments:

"I wanna kill myself for going to this song after Deadmau5"
"Even a 3 year old child could write a better song than this pathetic crap."
"i think the best buisness to get into is songwriting, seriously i mean if someone can write this and sell it then i think anyone can !!!!"
etc.

and, on the other hand:

"this girl look so dam hot "
"I love she's hair <3 "
"love the cloathes shes wearing"
etc.

Now, you might say, what's wrong about it? Everything is wrong! With products like these, music is not about the music anymore! It's about the fake sexual innuendos, the fake "hip" fashion factor, and ultimately, it's all about the benjamins. And the worst thing of it all is that this is stuff is tailored at audiences of 13 year old children who will suck entirely into that propaganda and buy this fake song and keep the pockets of their moneymasters full and happy.

How has Ultra, a once respectable label, reached this level of crappiness? Why do we have to see in its artist roster abominable wannabes like Alexandra Stan along fully respectable artists such as Wolfgang Gartner?

 

Thu Feb 2, 2012 18:52

wow thank god i chose sensation usa over ultra this is ridiculous, we need more independent labels like toolroom to keep the music the way the listeners and artists want them, hey guys how bout one day we start our own label and tell these corporate sell outs to go fuck themselves

 

Thu Feb 2, 2012 21:32

Well, i aswell really hate all this commercial crap that made by unpofessional producers who knows nothing about what the music is! But what can we do with it?? Its a really big bussiness and some people get so much money for this shit. So, they give a fuck about what few persons like us think about that all. There are many others who loves the music...and those producers (artists..) will do their thing anyway...

 

Thu Feb 2, 2012 22:11

Posted by Kristina today, 21:32
Well, i aswell really hate all this commercial crap that made by unpofessional producers who knows nothing about what the music is! But what can we do with it?? Its a really big bussiness and some people get so much money for this shit. So, they give a fuck about what few persons like us think about that all. There are many others who loves the music...and those producers (artists..) will do their thing anyway... 

we the future producers can just keep making real music for real people as our friend mc gee likes to say and just ignore the politics behind the scene, if you guys saw what it likes here in the us youd guys be ashamed, people posting up on fb about alesso and shm, but when i played some techy and even a little commercial house years before everyone hated it, but now its the cool things so kids all of sudden like the music and claim their ravers, but yet they dont even know who carl cox , jeff mills, or even fedde are!

 

Thu Feb 2, 2012 22:23

Thats sad...but yeah, youre right! We and people like us should keep to make good music! ...So i hope in the near future musical history will have better time
PS Cool idea about the label Nicholas

 

Thu Feb 2, 2012 23:10

just ignore the politics behind the scene 

Evil is not neutral. If we ignore evil, it will just continue to grow and spread, more and more.

This is a call to arms, my fellas. A call for men and women of good will to reclaim the dominion of MUSIC over the dominion of BULLCRAP.

It ain't easy. But it can be done.

 

Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:49

Look. It's all about music videos.
SHM got real famous by ONE, because armin van buuren played it as a starter in when the Dutch Soccer Team came back. It was televised. Then a video followed and was shown on MTV etc. vocals added and tadaa, people like. It's about the thing that people can say like: 'hey have you heard that song? It was on tv yesterday. Crazy video. Check it out on YouTube!'
That is what it's all about. Look at the most viewed video on yt. DJ falling in love again. I hate that kind of music, but it has a video. Look at those views. Unbelievable.
Ultra is like Kontor Recordings in Germany. Check out their stuff on YouTube, their username is kontortv. They have for every song that has just a bit potential a video. That's the business. We could make a video for Mouses Ate My Proteins. Would be superinteresting. Vocals aren't needed. Look at bromance. Worked. One, again. Worked as well. And Ultra is just also going that way. It's a pity, but with piracy these days labels also go through hard times.
Starting an own label? I like the idea, but the focus should be on taking the underground up;-p. make music videos for tech house and techno etc. bad ass concept, takes a lot of courage, but when the people get privy to that, it could work. Booja:-) oh charity also works btw...